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the nra is more aggressive in opposition. you saw after the expiration of the assault weapons ban in 2004, they got aggressive. it was before staying your ground was passed. they banned cities. they got aggressive really quickly. they are still more aggressive than the other side. >> i truly believe, i still believe the vast majority of americans across all affiliations are reasonable people. the tragedy in newtown wasn't a true game changer. on my way down here, i saw the new edition, people magazine that has the faces of all those kids on the cover. as time goes on, parents will write a book about their experience. we come to know more about their children. it's not going to go away. it touched such a nerve with people, they are against something that is very different from the past where they could die down and go back to business as usual. i think this is something that touches on every parent's worst nightmare. it's not going to go away. with the strategy, the game is different now. >> i want to reiterate that wayne lapi
the nra is more aggressive in opposition. you saw after the expiration of the assault weapons ban in 2004, they got aggressive. it was before staying your ground was passed. they banned cities. they got aggressive really quickly. they are still more aggressive than the other side. >> i truly believe, i still believe the vast majority of americans across all affiliations are reasonable people. the tragedy in newtown wasn't a true game changer. on my way down here, i saw the new edition,...
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the nra says that's what will clean our children safe. we'll talk to one former governor who took on that gun lobby. >> thank you and god bless america. you guys are the best. thank you so much. >> then details out today about mitt romney's not so enthusiastic approach to running for the white house and what it might say about the will challenges ahead for the gop. good afternoon. all that and more ahead. >>> first, lawmakers are down to the wire on avoiding the fiscal cliff. will they get a deal done before the end of the year, president obama is on vacation and so is house speaker john boehner, but here's what they said before they left. >> call me a hopeless optimist, but i actually still think we can get it done. >> of course, hope springs eternal, and i know we have it in us to come together and to do the right thing. >> for more on all this i want to bring in nbc's white house correspondent kristen welker who is traveling with the president in hawaii. she joins us now from honolulu. hey, kristen. the president and the speaker are st
the nra says that's what will clean our children safe. we'll talk to one former governor who took on that gun lobby. >> thank you and god bless america. you guys are the best. thank you so much. >> then details out today about mitt romney's not so enthusiastic approach to running for the white house and what it might say about the will challenges ahead for the gop. good afternoon. all that and more ahead. >>> first, lawmakers are down to the wire on avoiding the fiscal...
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and it's not reality and the nra and the leadership of the nra is built on myth. i would not have guessed that anybody who of diminished credibility could do more than what wayne lapierre did friday. average folks like cory said, average folks know you have to do something about this and know how comprehensive. i live in texas. i own five guns and all the folks i associate with when you go out hunting you take your guns and you put them if a safe and everybody goes to bed. it's the wild west everybody talks about the wild west, the wild west, almost every part of the wild west you check your guns at the door before you walk in somewhere in a wild west town is the way it used to be. i worked for senator bentsen. he represented texas. he helped pass the assault weapons ban. though it may not solve the problem, i expected wayne lapierre, i actually expected wayne lapierre to stand up and say exactly what he said and then say oh by the way i have stuck to doom dogmatic positions for too long and it's time to ban the -- >> this is the importance. the nra is built on my
and it's not reality and the nra and the leadership of the nra is built on myth. i would not have guessed that anybody who of diminished credibility could do more than what wayne lapierre did friday. average folks like cory said, average folks know you have to do something about this and know how comprehensive. i live in texas. i own five guns and all the folks i associate with when you go out hunting you take your guns and you put them if a safe and everybody goes to bed. it's the wild west...
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the nra refused to take questions during a media statement last week, but today the ceo of the nra is responding to critics on "meet the press" after calling for armed police officers to be posted at every school in the u.s. >> there have been gass where armed guards have not prevented this kind of massacre and carna carnage. you would concede that point, wouldn't you? >> i would say if i'm a mom or dad dropping my child off at school i'd feel a whole lot safer with these great men and women on police forces -- >> you have to concede it may not work. >> nothing is perfect, david. >> joining me now andy sullivan and contributing editor for "newsweek" and the daily beast, eleanor clift. welcome to both of you. >> thank you. >> eleanor, you saw that exchange with the nra ceo wayne lapierre not conceding anything. how tough is this going to be for president obama to get gun-control legislation passed in congress and will that happen? >> it's going to be tough but it can happen. you know, it took ten years between the attempt on president reagan's life in 1980, more than ten years, for the
the nra refused to take questions during a media statement last week, but today the ceo of the nra is responding to critics on "meet the press" after calling for armed police officers to be posted at every school in the u.s. >> there have been gass where armed guards have not prevented this kind of massacre and carna carnage. you would concede that point, wouldn't you? >> i would say if i'm a mom or dad dropping my child off at school i'd feel a whole lot safer with these...
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>> the nra also retained asa hutchinson, former u.s. attorney, congressman and homeland security official, to develop a model school safety plan focused on issues of design and access control and training for students and educators alike that the group could, said could be tailored by any school to st its% individual needs. lou. lou: james, the two sides in this gun control debate, are now, if you will forgive the expression, they're armed up and going at it and getting ready for major confrontation. is there any compromise available in this, in this debate? >> as with the fiscal cliff it doesn't appear readily discernable, lou. president obama released a video message vowing to fight for new gun control laws early next year. the down tours of this debate are already taking shape as leading democrats are pressing for renewed assault weapons ban and for new limit on semitick ammunition magazines. a leading senate democrat says she favored schools being allowed to have armed guards if they so choose but she then cited the columbine massac
>> the nra also retained asa hutchinson, former u.s. attorney, congressman and homeland security official, to develop a model school safety plan focused on issues of design and access control and training for students and educators alike that the group could, said could be tailored by any school to st its% individual needs. lou. lou: james, the two sides in this gun control debate, are now, if you will forgive the expression, they're armed up and going at it and getting ready for major...
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we are the nra and the and are a. nra. host: those of the words of senator joe manchin who is a gun advocate. we're taking your calls and comments -- will it be a bitter fight ahead? we go to the democrats' line from macon, georgia. caller: how many children are we going to lose to guns before something is done? i remember during the 08 election, there were people around the president of the united states with assault rifles. we put people in schools with the guns, what happens if there in the restroom and somebody breaks and from the front? how are they going to protect the children? how many children do we have to lose? host: thanks for the call -- let me share with you this photograph from "the new york daily news." a handful of students tried to flee and lanza shot teem. some of the other fallen students are in the photograph. because of the teacher process protection, most of her students survived a car. -- survived a the horror. asheville, north carolina, republican line. caller: i would like to say one thing and i t
we are the nra and the and are a. nra. host: those of the words of senator joe manchin who is a gun advocate. we're taking your calls and comments -- will it be a bitter fight ahead? we go to the democrats' line from macon, georgia. caller: how many children are we going to lose to guns before something is done? i remember during the 08 election, there were people around the president of the united states with assault rifles. we put people in schools with the guns, what happens if there in the...
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a week after the massacre at sandy hook elementary, nra executive wayne lapierre joined the debate and here is part of what he said. >> the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> chris: senator barasso, wayne lapierre proposed having an armed guard in every school in america. estimates are that would cost some where not the neighborhood of $8 billion a year. a couple of questions. one, would you vote at a time of deficit issues for $8 billion a year to put armed guards in every school in america? and are there any laws you can support in terms of assault guns, or assault rifles in terms of high capacity magazines, tightening background checks, any new gun controls you could support? >> letts step back for a second. i'm a doctor and father of three and from wyoming, a state where we believe strongly in our second amendment rights. we are the people of wyoming and we personally still absolutely committed to find real solutions that work. so something like this tragedy never happens again. three more of those children were laid to rest yesterday. >> chris:
a week after the massacre at sandy hook elementary, nra executive wayne lapierre joined the debate and here is part of what he said. >> the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> chris: senator barasso, wayne lapierre proposed having an armed guard in every school in america. estimates are that would cost some where not the neighborhood of $8 billion a year. a couple of questions. one, would you vote at a time of deficit issues for $8 billion a year...
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. >> the nra wants to see existing gun laws enforced and in the aftermath of the newtown massacre. wants armed guards in schools. >>> in
. >> the nra wants to see existing gun laws enforced and in the aftermath of the newtown massacre. wants armed guards in schools. >>> in
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. >> what about the nra? >> well, the nra is an organization that has members who are mothers and fathers. and i would expect that they've been impacted by this as well. and hopefully they'll do some self-reflection. and here's what we know -- that any single gun law can't solve all these problems. we're going to have to look at mental health issues. we're going to have to look at schools. there are going to be a whole range of things that joe's group looks at. we know that issues of gun safety will be an element of it. and what we've seen over the last 20 years, 15 years, is the sense that anything related to guns is somehow an encroachment on the second amendment. what we're looking for here is a thoughtful approach that says we can preserve our second amendment, we can make sure that responsible gun owners are able to carry out their activities, but that we're going to actually be serious about the safety side of this; that we're going to be serious about making sure that something like newtown or aurora d
. >> what about the nra? >> well, the nra is an organization that has members who are mothers and fathers. and i would expect that they've been impacted by this as well. and hopefully they'll do some self-reflection. and here's what we know -- that any single gun law can't solve all these problems. we're going to have to look at mental health issues. we're going to have to look at schools. there are going to be a whole range of things that joe's group looks at. we know that issues...